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Corina Jarr
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Posted - 2012.06.14 18:05:00 -
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Interestingly before I started playing EVE I had read the forums for a few months along with the entire wiki and a few fan sites.
I probably knew more about EVE than some 1 years olds do now.
The problem: with the way rules are now, a rookie could grief the PvPers in Arnon (grief as in the bannable offence) by continually taking their cans and they can't do anything about it. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.14 18:25:00 -
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Mrr Woodcock wrote:....
Tippia, just think about what your saying there would ya. I can figure out he's not a rookie, CCP I'm certain can figure this out. What about you.
I wouldn't be so sure.
As it stands you get a warning when shooting someone who is older than you, in a better and more skill intensive ship than you, in a rookie system if the older character is considered a rookie (meaning the one doing the shooting woudl be a rookie too). And in Arnon, a "rookie" can grab from PvPers cans all they want and if they get shot, they can just get someone banned. Its the ultimate griefing, and CCP encourages it. |
Corina Jarr
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Posted - 2012.06.14 18:36:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Mrr Woodcock wrote:....
Tippia, just think about what your saying there would ya. I can figure out he's not a rookie, CCP I'm certain can figure this out. What about you. I wouldn't be so sure. As it stands you get a warning when shooting someone who is older than you, in a better and more skill intensive ship than you, in a rookie system if the older character is considered a rookie (meaning the one doing the shooting woudl be a rookie too). And in Arnon, a "rookie" can grab from PvPers cans all they want and if they get shot, they can just get someone banned. Its the ultimate griefing, and CCP encourages it. Why do people feel the need to pvp in a starter system? Edit: I should clarify to Can PVP, wardecs excluded.
Oh no's Rookies fighting in starter systems!!!
And yes, Arnon certainly is a starter system.
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:45:00 -
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This reminds me of the "define blobbing" discussion on the old forums. I think in the end we discovered that defining blobbing was impossible for game purposes... and we will likely find that true here.
Any definition picked will annoy someone.
For now, outside of Rookie systems (I avoid those for obvious reasons), I will kill/scam anyone I want/can who is more than 30 days old, and if they show a basic understanding of aggro mechanics, I'll kill them even if they are a week old.
Of course... this assumes that I woudl be able to kill anyone. I really do suck at combat. |
Corina Jarr
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Posted - 2012.06.15 21:54:00 -
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You all seem to be missing Tippia's point (and maybe I am too but I'll give it a try).
So far every definition of rookie put forth has been terrible. And if it is as impossible to define as the GM said, then it makes for a poor rule.
Vagueness in the action of a rule is fine and workable. Vagueness in the subject is downright dangerous. |
Corina Jarr
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:40:00 -
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Rhedea wrote:Noobs are those still on the rookie channel, and should have icon to show it. Like a round icon ( ) instead of the normal [ ] Like leaner plates (L)  Anyway as long as they stay in High Sec they should be kinda safe. A sec hit of -10 for shooting a ( ) in High Sec. A Ban for shooting in a starting system. No if and or buts.
Hmm, decent. It means that alts on the same account will not be protected (an issue with any other method as we the player cannot determine who is a new account and who is just a new character).
Only issue is that alt accounts of old players can be protected in this way.
On a side note, it would be hilarious to find a vet abusing the rookie rules by continually taking from cans in Arnon.
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Corina Jarr
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Posted - 2012.06.16 15:47:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Rhedea wrote:Noobs are those still on the rookie channel, and should have icon to show it. Like a round icon ( ) instead of the normal [ ] Like leaner plates (L) Anyway as long as they stay in High Sec they should be kinda safe. A sec hit of -10 for shooting a ( ) in High Sec. A Ban for shooting in a starting system. No if and or buts. Hmm, decent. It means that alts on the same account will not be protected (an issue with any other method as we the player cannot determine who is a new account and who is just a new character). Only issue is that alt accounts of old players can be protected in this way. On a side note, it would be hilarious to find a vet abusing the rookie rules by continually taking from cans in Arnon (if things get that direction). Also, my question (overall) still has yet to be answered: what about rookie on rookie violence? Is that bannable? And that's why protecting "rookies" everywhere is a bad plan. What's the line between can baiting and jetcan mining? ....
At times their one and the same.
A person was Jet can mining, and had their corp sit by and wait to stomp anyone who would steal, get blown up, and then come back for revenge.
Was fun to watch for a bit.
But anyway. CCP wants to do something without devoting man hours to it, which is plain a bad idea to begin with. |
Corina Jarr
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Posted - 2012.06.21 15:51:00 -
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Yoshite McLulzypants wrote:This is a very easy question. You cannot fly anything but a tech 1 frigate or destroyer on a trial account (maybe a cruiser too?). If you see someone in any other ship then they have paid for an account, ccp has their money, fire away.
Some people buy the account without a trial first. |
Corina Jarr
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Posted - 2012.06.23 00:41:00 -
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The way the rules are now, it is as if the law here in the US was "Don't have sex with minors" without defining what minors were. |
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